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Terminated is the fourth chapter on the DVDs of Ghostbusters. This chapter shows the trio getting kicked out of Columbia University and thus they then go into business for themselves.

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Peter, Ray, and Egon entered Room 205 A mid-conversation. Ray exclaimed the possibilities were limitless. He noticed Dean Yeager was present. Several movers were also in the Paranormal Studies Laboratory. Dean Yeager stood in the middle of the room and turned to Peter, Ray, and Egon. A man in a rolled up long sleeve wearing headphones carried a cardboard box. Music from the soundtrack's "I Can Wait Forever" played. A man in a checkered collar shirt carried a piece of equipment out of the lab. He walked between Ray and Peter. Peter presumed they were being moved to better quarters on campus. Dean Yeager replied they were being moved off campus because the Board of Regents decided to terminate their grant. He instructed them to vacate the premises immediately. Peter closed his eyes then stated the situation was preposterous and demanded an explanation. Egon's face conveyed he was mortified. Yeager wound up and obliged Peter. He stated Columbia was no longer continuing any funding of any kind for their group's activities. Peter countered the kids loved them. Yeager sat at the edge of a metal desk and stated Columbia believed the purpose of science was to serve mankind. The mover with headphones carted the Medrad Mark IV Angiographic Injector Injection System between Peter and Ray. Yeager pointed out Peter seemed to regard science as some kind of dodge or hustle. He critiqued Peter's theories as the worst kind of popular tripe, told him his methods were sloppy, and thought his conclusions were highly questionable. He called Peter a poor scientist. The mover in the checkered collar shirt started taking the camcorder and module equipment Ray had on his person. Ray took the Nikon camera off himself and handed it over. Peter only replied, "I see." Yeager concluded he had no place in the department or in the university. Yeager stood back up and turned away.

Ray paced outside while Peter lied on stone left of the exterior of the Low Library and drank a swig from his liquor. Ray thought it was a major disgrace and uttered they should forget employment at MIT or Stanford, who wouldn't touch them with a ten-meter cattle-prod. Peter remarked he was always so concerned about his reputation and pointed out Einstein did his best stuff when he was working as a patent clerk. Ray asked Peter if he knew how much a patent clerk earned. Peter was not aware. Ray explained he liked the university because they gave them money and facilities and they didn't have to produce anything. He pointed out Peter was never out of college and didn't know what it was like out there. Ray reminded Peter he worked in the private sector and they expected results. Peter got on his feet, placed his arm on Ray, and walked him to the top of the stairs. He told Ray for whatever reasons, call it fate, call it luck, call it karma, he believed that everything happened for a reason. He believed that they were destined to get thrown out of this dump. He walked Ray over to the top of the stairs looking out at the courtyard. Ray asked for what purpose. Peter answered it was for them to go into business for themselves. He offered Ray a drink. Ray drank and calmed down. He stated the ecto-containment system that he and Egon had in mind was going to require a load of bread to capitalize. He asked Peter where they were going to get the money from. Peter drank then replied twice that he didn't know.

Some time later, Peter, Ray, and Egon emerged from the Manhattan City Bank at 489 Fifth Avenue in suits. Peter opened the doors. Ray stared at a manila envelope in his hands. Egon ran some calculations on his Casio Micro-Mini Calculator. The score was triumphant sounding. Peter promised Ray he was never going to regret it. Ray stated his parents left him that house and he was born there. Peter reassured him he was not going to lose the house and everybody had three mortgages nowadays. Ray questioned settling at 19 percent and not bargaining. Egon finished a calculation and flashed it to Ray. Egon stated the interest rate alone for the first five years came to $95,000. Peter told them to relax and reminded them they were are on the threshold of establishing the indispensable defense science of the next decade, professional paranormal investigations and eliminations. He pined the franchise rights alone would make them rich beyond their wildest dreams. He gestured 'rich' with his hands. Ray shook his head.

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Trivia[]

Ghostbusters (1984) Trivia[]

  • In the June 6, 1983 draft, the Ghostbusters were tossed out of a small New England college and then go to New York. It was realized there was something vital to the story taking place in New York. The opening sequence was set in a nice, converted farmhouse where a family was bothered by incessant knocking they couldn't trace. The theme of mundanity in supernatural phenomena was preserved when the scene was rewritten to take place in the New York City Public Library.[1]
  • In the July 6, 1983 draft, on page 16, back on campus, Peter comments on "Burn in hell" painted on the door as they walk into Weaver Hall then they are fired by Dean Yeager.
  • In the August 5, 1983 draft:
    • On page 14, Peter aspires to winning a Nobel Prize. Egon points out he and Ray should win it since they did the hard research and designed the equipment. Peter retorts he introduced them so that should count for something.[2]
    • On page 15, a coed named Beth accosts Peter and asks why she got a D on her midterm despite the "deal" they had. As soon as Peter, Egon, and Ray enter the lab, a workman scraps their names off with a razor.
  • In the September 30, 1983 draft, on page 16, the Nobel prize discussion takes place, the workman scrapping their names off, and Dean Yeager firing them are kept but the Beth scene is discarded.
  • At around the 13:50 mark of the Preview Cut, included first in the 2022 Ghostbusters Ultimate Edition, the deleted scene "Nobel Prize Aspirations" precedes the traditional start of the chapter of Peter, Ray, and Egon entering Room 205 mid-conversation.
  • The opening scene established Peter, Ray, and Egon were based in Room 205 A of the Paranormal Studies Laboratory.
  • The AVL Electrolyte Analyzer from Chapter 2: Shock the Nerd is near Dean Yeager.
  • After Ray greets Dean Yeager, music from the soundtrack's "I Can Wait Forever" can be heard.
  • The mover with headphones carted out the Medrad Mark IV Angiographic Injector Injection System seen in Chapter 2: Shock the Nerd.
  • In the August 5, 1983 draft, on page 16, Peter reacts to being fired by bringing up what happened to Galileo. Yeager tells them it could be worse, the astronomer Phileas had his head staked to the town gate. This sequence is filmed and ended up in the Deleted Scene: Stake.
  • After being fired, Ray and Peter confer at the Low Library courtyard area.
  • Peter's hard liquor is Hiram Walker Apricot Flavored Brandy, 70 proof, in 375 mL.
  • Ray mentions the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Stanford University.
  • Peter mentions Albert Einstein and his patent clerk job.
    • After graduating in 1900, Einstein secured a job in Bern at the Federal Office for Intellectual Property.
  • Ray refers to the Containment Unit.
  • In the August 5, 1983 draft, on page 17-18, Peter, Egon, and Ray go to Irving Trust on the Avenue of Americas. The loan officer is unsure of what parapsychology is. He thinks they want to start up a kind of mini-psychiatric medical center. He offers to underwrite an initial loan of $25,000 and overlooking the matter of collateral until they get established. He stares at Ray when Ray says the name of the business is "Ghostbusters."
  • In the September 30, 1983 draft, on page 20, the bank scene now starts on them exiting Irving Trust and Peter assures Ray everyone has three mortgages. Egon tells Ray the interest payments for the first five years will be $75,000.
    • In the movie, the amount increases to $95,000.
  • The Irving Trust Bank on Avenue of the Americas eventually became the fictional Manhattan City Bank with the sequence being filmed directly across from the New York Public Library on Fifth Avenue.[3]
  • The bank scene was shot at the end of the day when the library scenes were filmed.[4]
  • The suit Ray wears when he exits the bank is the same suit he later wears briefly in Chapter 14: Welcome Aboard when he is interviewed by Joe Franklin.
  • At around the 16:45 mark of the Preview Cut, after Peter tells Ray and Egon they will become rich beyond our wildest dreams, Ray is concerned people will be too afraid to report a ghost. Peter quips no one ever advertised before.

Ghostbusters: The Supernatural Spectacular Trivia[]

  • Pages 45 to 50 expands on Ray's family home and is placed in Islip on Long Island. Ray was left the house because his father met Peter and realized Ray would one day need all the help he could get.

Ghostbusters: Afterlife Trivia[]

  • Peter's line, "For whatever reasons, Ray, call it fate... call it luck... call it karma... I believe that everything happens for a reason." is quoted in the first trailer.
  • Phoebe finds a Crunch bar in chest pocket of a flightsuit.
  • The Medrad Mark IV Angiographic Injector Injection System from the Paranormal Studies Laboratory in the first movie is present in the underground laboratory.

Ghostbusters: The Video Game Trivia[]

  • Franchise applications are advertised in the commercial at the start of the game.
  • On the second floor of the Firehouse, in Ghostbusters: The Video Game (Realistic Versions), on the employee of the month board:
    • For January, the still of Peter is from Chapter 4, around the 13:36 mark, when Dean Yeager explains their grant was terminated.

IDW Comics Trivia[]

  • In Ghostbusters: Infestation #2, on page 4, Britt calls the team "private sector types." The private sector is mentioned by Ray in the first movie.
  • On page 10 of Ghostbusters Volume 1 Issue #3, Manhattan City Bank with a three mortgage reference can be seen on a billboard.
  • On page 2 of Ghostbusters Volume 1 Issue #3, Ron Alexander mentioned his franchise application was rejected.
  • On page 19 of Ghostbusters Volume 1 Issue #7, Peter has a get well card from Dean Yeager from the first movie and quotes his famous line when he addressed why the guys were terminated.
  • On page 6 of Ghostbusters Volume 2 Issue #11, the sixth yellow Post-It Note, to the right of the Luko art, references the Manhattan City Bank and the 19% interest rate from the first movie.
  • On page 1 of Ghostbusters Volume 2 Issue #14, Peter has his flask from the scene after they are removed from Columbia University.
  • On page 16 of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters Issue #2, there is an ad for the Manhattan City Bank from the first movie once more with Peter's 'everyone has three mortgages nowadays' line.
  • On page 12 of Ghostbusters Annual 2015, in panel 3, Peter has his liquor, that he and Ray drank from after they are are kicked out of Columbia University in the first movie.
  • On page 12 of Ghostbusters International Issue #1, in panel 4, Erland Vinter's check references Irving Trust.
  • On the Dramatis Personae page of Ghostbusters International Issue #10, Ray's bio mentions he's down to two mortgages, a nod to the first movie when Peter, Ray, and Egon leave Manhattan City Bank.
  • On page 19 of Ghostbusters 101 Issue #5, in panel 4, Egon appears to be using his Casio Micro-Mini Calculator from the first movie when he, Peter, and Ray left Manhattan City Bank.
  • On page 8 of Ghostbusters 35th Anniversary: Ghostbusters, in panel 1, above the Penn Station signage is an ad for Manhattan City Bank with the quote of Ray's line about nobody having three mortgages.
  • On Cover B of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #1, the check is from Manhattan City Bank seen in Chapter 4: Terminated.
    • It has its Avenue of Americas address.
    • The check is dated November 2, 1984.
  • Ray's biography in Ghostbusters Year One Issue #1's Dramatis Personae mentions Ray mortgaging his family home.
  • On Cover B of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #2:
    • The yellow Post-It note on the left mentions the first mortgage payment is due on November 1, 1984.
    • Under the eye dropper is a document that references the Manhattan City Bank mortgage.
  • On page 2 of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #2, Dean Yeager refers to firing Peter, Ray, and Egon in Chapter 4: Terminated and when he called Peter a poor scientist.
  • On page 9 of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #2:
    • Rebecca alludes to Ray, Peter, and Egon getting fired.
    • Ray mentions going into business shortly after being fired.
  • On page 12 of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #2, Ray alludes to Peter not negotiating very well at Manhattan City Bank in the first movie, Chapter 4: Terminated.
  • On Cover B of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #3, there is the mortgage contract from Manhattan City Bank, seen in Chapter 4: Terminated.
    • The contract lists Ray's middle name, Francis. It was used by Peter in Chapter 3: "Get Her!"
    • The 19% interest rate from Chapter 4 is listed.
    • The annual payment is listed as $19,000. In Chapter 4, Egon stated in the first five years would be $95,000. In other words, each year, it would be $19,000.
    • Islip was listed as the location of Ray's family's home on page 45 of Ghostbusters: The Supernatural Spectacular.
  • On page 4 of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #3, Rebecca recalls Dean Yeager called Peter a poor scientist. It came up last issue and originally in Chapter 4.
  • On cover B of Ghostbusters Year One Issue #4, next to the Post It is Egon's Casio Micro-Mini Calculator from Chapter 4: Terminated.
    • 1984, the year of the first movie, is on the screen of the Micro-Mini Calculator.

Ghostbusters: Answer The Call Trivia[]

Tertiary Canon Trivia[]

  • On page 1 of Egon's Journal, a supplement of the Hasbro Haslab Ghostbusters Plasma Series Spengler's Proton Pack, there are several references to Chapter 4: Terminated:
    • Dean Yeager announcing the trio's research grant was terminated and telling them they were to vacate off the premises immediately.
    • Yeager calling Peter's theories the worst kind of popular tripe and calling his methods sloppy and highly questionable.
  • On page 2 of Egon's Journal, there are several references to Chapter 4: Terminated:
    • Peter's pitch of an "indispensable defense science of the next decade: professional paranormal investigations and eliminations."
    • The third mortgage.
    • Egon's $95,000 calculation.

Quotes[]

Peter: Will you guys relax? We are on the threshold of establishing THE indispensable defense science of the next decade - Professional Paranormal Investigations and Eliminations. The franchise rights alone will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams.

References[]

  1. Shay, Don (November 1985). Making Ghostbusters, p. 36 annotation. New York Zoetrope, New York NY USA, ISBN 0918432685. Harold Ramis says: "In our first draft, the Ghostbusters were tossed out of a small New England college and then go to New York. But we realized that there was something very vital about being in the city, so we began thinking maybe we should start the film there. That's when we came up with the idea of using the New York Public Library for our opening sequence."
  2. Aykroyd, Dan & Ramis, Harold (1983). Ghostbusters (First Draft August 5, 1983) (Script p. 14). Peter Venkman says: "Yeah, but I introduced you guys. You never would've met if not for me.""
  3. Shay, Don (November 1985). Making Ghostbusters, p. 37. New York Zoetrope, New York NY USA, ISBN 0918432685.
  4. Joe Medjuck (2005). Ghostbusters- Commentary (2005) (DVD ts. 15:17-15:27). Columbia TriStar Home Video. Joe Medjuck says: "I remember because we finished in the library at 10 am then we went outside, took a break, went outside of the library, and shot this same scene at the end of the day. "

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