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For awhile now its been debated if the first air times for The Real Ghostbusters and Slimer! were correct. After talking about this with Paul Rudoff and a few others, it is safe to say that from Season 5 (Abc season 4) -Season 7 (Abc season 6) that the air times are not right at all. Same goes for Slimer! show. It is a bit hard to explain what all is wrong but try to read through. (Don't TL:DR me lol)


Issue at Hand

For the first part let me just copy and paste this from Spook Central: "The airdates come from TV.com and are probably completely INCORRECT! The only one that I know to be correct is "The Halloween Door", and that's due to its special Sunday primetime airing. I'm guessing that the editors at TV.com just simply assumed one new episode aired each week, regardless of whether it was a 15-minute or 30-minute episode, or was in a one-hour block or not, and just ran through each Saturday on the calendar until they ran out of episodes. I WOULD NOT TAKE ANY OF THESE AIRDATES AS FACT! In fact, the reason Time-Life's DVD box set doesn't list airdates in the liner book is because there is no concrete record of when each episode first aired."

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This was recently added by Paul Rudoff. Since then more interesting things have been brought to light by Clark Kent. Namely the search engine for copyrights. The interesting thing is that most likely TV.com based they air dates on copyrights, however some where not listed the first time til 1992. The conclusion is the shows that were copyrighted the year they aired appeared to be right. Season 1-4 (Season 4 having a few issues but fixable) all appear to be the same as TV.com, and are copyrighted the same year or one year after. Seasons 5-7 are copyrighted the first time in 1992 and then 1998. One can conclude that these are copyrighted for re-airings on other networks like USA and Fox Family. The first air dates given have been concluded to have been actually taken off the internet much later. See this is where the mess gets heavy and hairy.

Notes by Season

Due to the nature of this being user submitted, I think it'd be best to note who submitted what. Contributors:

RGB Season 1 (ABC season 1)

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This season was confirmed to have premiered on Sep 13, 1986.[1] All dates are correct with regards to this season on TV.Com and other websites that copied the information.

RGB Season 2 (Syndicated)

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The Syndicated run has be confirmed to be correct in a few places now, so TV.com's listing are correct. However after it ran 1987-1988 year, it still aired til atleast 1989-1990. It may have moved stations, and later syndicated airings has season 1, 3, and 4 added. Any information on this would be useful including any notable changes. I (*MJ) can confirm that The Real Ghostbusters was airing in Syndication Weekdays at 8:30 am on Peoria, IL Wyzz-Tv Fox 43[2], either during fall 1988 or 1989. Episode Big Trouble With Little Slimer was aired. This was found on a VHS. Channel WZDX 54 (Independent til 1990 when it became FOX) began running The Real Ghostbusters September 18 (Monday) 1989 at 6:30 am (Central Time zone)[3] til April 06 1990.[4]

RGB Season 3 (ABC season 2)

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It is confirmed the season started on September 12, 1987.[5] While the episodes are in order for the season, there is the Hour format issue. They either introduced it on Jan 23 1988[6], Jan 30[7], or Feb 06[8]. It did happen after Jan 16, 1988.[9] Funny enough it appears The Real Ghostbusters bumped off the ABC lineup Care Bears. It is confirmed that the hour format Real Ghostbusters ran til September 10 1988 when the new season started.[10]

S! and RGB Season 4 (ABC season 3)

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The first issue we are coming close to fixing is the Slimer Shows. Thanks to these results and some logic here is the list:


Before fixes:

  • 1988-09-10 Slimer 1
  • 1988-09-10 The Jokes on Ray
  • 1988-09-17 Slimer 2
  • 1988-09-17 Flip side
  • 1988-09-24 Slimer 3
  • 1988-09-24 Poultrygeist
  • 1988-10-01 Slimer 13
  • 1988-10-08 Slimer 4
  • 1988-10-08 Standing room only
  • 1988-10-15 Slimer 5
  • 1988-10-15 Robo-buster
  • 1988-10-22 Slimer 6
  • 1988-10-22 Short stuff
  • 1988-10-29 Slimer 9
  • 1988-11-05 Slimer 7
  • 1988-11-05 Slimer 8
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  • 1988-11-15 Follow that hearse
  • 1988-11-19 The Brooklyn Triangle
  • 1988-11-26 Slimer 12
  • 1988-12-03 Slimer 10
  • 1988-12-10 Slimer 11

With fixes:


Anyways, we still don't know which episodes (shorts) of Slimer were with what. The TV.com list doesn't work as the shows add up to 21 minutes or so per block. TV.com listed the 14 minute episodes together in the list they did. So their order is not workable.

RGB Season 5 (ABC season 4)

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Season 5 (ABC season 4) is maybe the biggest mess of them all. Looking at TV.com again, one can conclude they are off just by the fact the 15 minute episodes are suggested to have aired new on different Saturdays than the 30 minute time slot ones. Many times one new 15 minute slot RGB and 30 minute slot RGB aired on the same Saturday that season (last 14 minute slot that season was reruns of Slimer!). The first air date was Sept. 09 1989. Most weeks there was an new 15 minute episode, however there were Saturday's that had two half hour shows.

Here is how TV.com had these listed:
(half hour shows)

  • 1989-09-09 Something's Going Around
  • 1989-09-16 Three Men and an Egon
  • 1989-09-23 Elementary My Dear Winston
  • 1989-09-30 If I Were a Witch Man
  • 1989-10-07 Partners in Slime
  • 1989-10-14 Future Tense
  • 1989-10-21 Jailbusters
  • 1989-10-28 Live! From Al Capone's Tomb
  • 1989-10-29 The Halloween Door

(15 minutes shows)

  • 1989-11-11 Venk-Man!
  • 1989-11-18 Trading Faces
  • 1989-11-18 Transcendental Tourists
  • 1989-11-25 Surely You Joust
  • 1989-11-25 Kitty-Cornered
  • 1989-12-02 Slimer's Curse
  • 1989-12-02 Til Death Do Us Part
  • 1989-12-09 It's About Time
  • 1989-12-09 The Ransom of Greenspud
  • 1989-12-16 Revenge of the Ghostmaster
  • 1989-12-16 Loose Screws
  • 1989-12-23 Slimer Streak

Here is the list:

Also so we note, if there are 12 slots for the half hour episodes, that mean 8 are new leaving 4 to be re-airings.

RGB Season 6 (ABC season 5)

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Season 6 (ABC season 5) premiered with Janine, You've Changed and You Can't Teach an Old Demon New Tricks which means the dates are off already. I am thinking fans may have fixed up this one as the episodes themselves look to be in the right order. I'm thinking like the previous seasons, there is a 12 to 13 week spread they go by. That being said, I remember the first 2 weeks had two new episodes together, and I'm sure they had more of that, that season.



For now without VHSes:

Noted: Both Johnny Splitz and myself (Matthew Jordan) remember "Baby Spookums" was re-aired in the lineup, but not sure with which new episode.

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The last season is mostly correct, however they did not air each Saturday thanks to sports shows as it was in the Grave shift of Saturday Mornings. I remember the order of the shows and the dvd box set dvd the same as airing.

Other noted dates were pre-empted dates which were provided by Clark Kent:

  • 1991-10-12
  • 1991-10-19
  • 1991-11-16
  • 1991-11-23
  • 1991-11-30
  • 1992-07-18 (Any show on After 9/10 am that morning was pre-empted by Live Golf)[20]

The last episode of The Real Ghostbusters to air on ABC happened on Sep 5, 1992.[21] The 1991-1992 ABC Saturday Morning Lineup started on Sep 12, 1992. [22]

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Since this was put in syndication, all that can be confirmed from newspapers is the week it started airing.

BKN Network (syndication)

  • 1997-09-01 (First airing)[23]
  • 1998-09-04 (Last airing)[24]

Sci-Fi Channel (syndication)

  • 1999-09-01 (First airing)[25]
  • 2000-08-24 (Last airing)[26]

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Times Aired

While this wasn't a plan to research the times the show aired, there has been great interest in this aspect so here we go. I am going to say this now so everyone knows airtimes differ due to timezones and local station decisions, so the times provided here are from the most official sources. Official being newspapers and TV guides. Timezone used will be Eastern Time Zone.

  • Season 1 (ABC season 1): 10:00 am Saturday (Half Hour)[27]
  • Season 2 (Syndicated): 4:00 pm Weekdays (Half Hour)[28] (Note that Syndicated usually allowed for local stations to place it where they wished. Also, when looking this up, be aware of the "filmation" Ghostbusters.)
  • Season 3 (ABC season 2): 10:30 am Saturday (Half Hour)[29]
    • Late January 30[30] or February 06[31] through season: 10:00 am Saturday (One Hour)
  • Season 4 (ABC season 3): 9:30 am Saturday (One Hour)[32]
  • Season 5 (ABC season 4): 9:30 am Saturday (One Hour)[33]
  • Season 6 (ABC season 5): 9:00 am Saturday (One Hour)[34]
  • Season 7 (ABC season 6): 12:00 am Saturday (Half Hour)[35]
    • December 07 through season: 10:00 am Saturday (Half Hour)[36]

Re-airings after ABC/Syndication

  • USA Cartoon Express:(September 16, 1991[citation needed]-September 11, 1994[citation needed]) Known Times:
    • Weekdays:
      • (From June 07, 1993[37] to September 10, 1993[38]) 8:30 am (Half Hour)
      • (From September 13, 1993[39] to July 01, 1994[40]) 8:30 am (One Hour)
    • Sundays:
      • (From June 06, 1993[41] to September 12, 1993[42]) 11:00 am (One Hour)
      • (From September 19, 1993[43] to October 24, 1993[44]) 10:00 am (One Hour)
      • (From October 31, 1993[45] to December 26, 1993[46] except January 02, 1994[47]) 9:00 am (One Hour)
      • (From February 06, 1994 to June 26, 1994[48] except June 12, 1994[40]) 9:30 am (Half Hour)
  • ABC: The Real Ghostbusters: Ex-mas Marks the Spot at 9:30 am Saturday on December 24, 1994[49] (by Clark Kent)
  • CBS: The Real Ghostbusters: Ex-mas Marks the Spot at 10:30 am Saturday on December 9, 1995[50] (by Nicholas Tosoni/Paul Rudoff/ and assist/research Matthew Jordan)
  • Fox Family Channel:(August 17, 1998[51]-October 1, 1999[52]) Known Times:
    • Weekdays:
      • (From August 17, 1998[51] to June 18, 1999[53]) 2:30 pm (Half Hour)
      • (From June 21, 1999[54] to October 01, 1999[52]) 7:00 am (Half Hour)
    • Saturdays: (From August 22, 1998 to sometime after January 2 1999 and before February 13 1999) 12:00 noon (Half Hour)
    • Sundays:
      • (From August 23, 1998[51] to?) 12:00 noon (Half Hour)
      • (From ? to ?) 11:30 am (Half Hour)
      • (From July 18, 1999[55] to September 26, 1999[52]) 11:30 am (Half Hour)
  • FEARnet:(August 18, 2012-?) 10:00 am Saturday and Sunday (Half Hour)[56]

Help!

This is a big project of researching out what all is out there. I need help both finding articles citing dates for show airing and when it aired. Noting other shows airing around it may help too.

To those that have VHS's or other oddball copies of the cartoons when they aired on Saturday morning, YOU ARE NEEDED!

We need notes on what aired with what, and shows and ads that may give us a time frame. Remember, if they are talking about synopsis to other shows in the credits, that could be researched too. Ads about shows or events are useful, as are news.

If you can help in anyway, you can note it in comments below, through Facebook Page on Ghostbusters Wikia, or email devilmanozzy at hotmail dot com (please make subject line "RGB airing Dates").

Resources

Resources used in part or may be useful for others:

References

  1. Toledo Blade - Sep 13, 1986 on Google
  2. Yelp.com:Wyzz-Tv Fox 43 - CLOSED
  3. Times Daily - Sep 17, 1989 on Google
  4. Times Daily - Apr 1, 1990 on Google
  5. Tri City Herald - Sep 6, 1987 on Google
  6. The Telegraph-Herald - Jan 22, 1988 on Google
  7. Toledo Blade - Jan 30, 1988 on Google
  8. Tri City Herald - Jan 31, 1988 on Google
  9. Toledo Blade - Jan 16, 1988 on Google
  10. Toledo Blade - Sep 3, 1988 on Google
  11. Star-News - Sep 4, 1988 on Google
  12. http://ecuon.tripod.com/id48.html
  13. http://ecuon.tripod.com/id48.html
  14. Star-News - Sep 3, 1989 on Google
  15. Toledo Blade - Oct 29, 1989 on Google
  16. Toledo Blade - Sep 8, 1990 on Google
  17. "Very Beast Friends" Bumper
  18. Toledo Blade - Sep 7, 1991 on Google
  19. The Albany Sunday Herald - Sep 7, 1991 on Google
  20. Toledo Blade - Jul 18, 1992 on Google
  21. Toledo Blade - Sep 5, 1992 on Google
  22. Toledo Blade - Sep 12, 1992 on Google
  23. Altus Times - Aug 31, 1997 on Google
  24. Altus Times - Aug 30, 1998 on Google
  25. Inner Mind home page-U.S. Sci-Fi Channel schedule for September 1999
  26. Inner Mind home page-U.S. Sci-Fi Channel schedule for August 2000
  27. Toledo Blade - Sep 13, 1986 on Google
  28. Toledo Blade - Sep 14, 1987 on Google
  29. Toledo Blade - Sep 19, 1987 on Google
  30. Toledo Blade - Jan 30, 1988 on Google
  31. Tri City Herald - Jan 31, 1988 on Google
  32. Star-News - Sep 4, 1988 on Google
  33. Star-News - Sep 3, 1989 on Google
  34. Star-News - Sep 2, 1990 on Google
  35. Toledo Blade - Sep 7, 1991 on Google
  36. Toledo Blade - Dec 7, 1991 on Google
  37. The Telegraph-Herald - Jun 4, 1993 on Google
  38. The Telegraph-Herald - Sep 3, 1993 on Google
  39. The Telegraph-Herald - Sep 10, 1993 on Google
  40. 40.0 40.1 The Telegraph-Herald - Jun 24, 1994 on Google
  41. The Telegraph-Herald - Jun 4, 1993 on Google
  42. The Telegraph-Herald - Sep 10, 1993 on Google
  43. The Telegraph-Herald - Sep 17, 1993 on Google
  44. The Telegraph-Herald - Oct 22, 1993 on Google
  45. The Telegraph-Herald - Oct 29, 1993 on Google
  46. The Telegraph-Herald - Dec 24, 1993 on Google
  47. The Telegraph-Herald - Dec 31, 1993 on Google
  48. The Telegraph-Herald - Jun 24, 1994 on Google
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  50. The Telegraph-Herald - Dec 8, 1995 on Google
  51. 51.0 51.1 51.2 Star-News - Aug 16, 1998 on Google
  52. 52.0 52.1 52.2 Star-News - Sep 26, 1999 on Google
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  54. Star-News - Jun 20, 1999 on Google
  55. Star-News - Jul 18, 1999 on Google
  56. Monstersandcritics.com: "FEARnet resurrects The Real Ghostbusters, Tales from the Cryptkeeper, details"

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